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Old 07-30-11, 04:30 PM
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Muslims try to destroy Israel, and demand areas of Israel's land for themselves. Muslims say that some areas of Israel belong to the Palestinians. The Quran declares that Allah has given the land of Israel for Jews, which is their holy land.


The Muslims fight against the announcement of the Quran when try to destroy Israel and take over the land of Israel. The Palestinian issue and the Middle East problems would be solved if the Muslims would believe the Quran and to allow the Israelis to live in their own land, which belongs to them. Of course, it would be best if they would believe in the Lord Jesus and the Bible, because, then they really know to whom the land of Israel belongs to. The rich Arab countries could re-colonize the Palestinian Arabs, and to give them a good home and a livelihood, because they can afford to it by many billions of oil incomes. The Arabs don't want to do this, but they want to keep Palestinian Arabs in misery as well as a shield and an excuse against Israel.

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Old 07-30-11, 09:46 PM
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Old 07-31-11, 02:09 AM
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Quran Sura 10:
90 we took the children of Israel across the sea: Pharaoh and his hosts followed them in insolence and spite. at length, when overwhelmed with the flood, he said: "I believe that there is no god except him whom the children of Israel believe in: I am of those who submit to Allah in Islam."
91 it was said to him: "Ah now!-- but a little while before, wast thou in rebellion!-- and thou didst mischief and violence!"
92 "this day shall we save thee in thy body, that thou mayest be a sign to those who come after thee! but verily, many among mankind are heedless of our signs!"
93 we settled the children of Israel in a beautiful dwelling place, and provided for them sustenance of the best: it was after knowledge had been granted to them, that they fell into schisms. verily Allah will judge between them as to the schisms amongst them, on the day of judgement.

Quran Sura 5:
20 both the Jews and the Christians say: "we are the sons of Allah, and his beloved." say: "why then doth he punish you for your sins? nay, ye are but men,-- of the men he hath created: he forgiveth whom he pleaseth. and he punisheth whom he pleaseth: and to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between: and unto him is the final goal of all."
21 O people of the book! now hath come unto you, making things clear unto you, our apostle, after the break in the series of our apostles, lest ye should say: "there came unto us no bringer of glad tidings and no warner from evil": but now hath come unto you a bringer of glad tidings and a warner from evil. and Allah hath power over all things.
22 remember Moses said to his people: "O my people! call in remembrance the favor of Allah unto you, when he produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave you what he had not given to any other among the peoples."
23 "O my people! enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin."

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Quran Su 3:
2 Allah! there is no god but he,-- the living, the self-subsisting, eternal.
3 it is he who sent down to thee step by step, in truth, the book, confirming what went before it; and he sent down the law of Moses and the Gospel of Jesus before this, as a guide to mankind, and he sent down the Criterion of judgment between right and wrong.
4 then those who reject faith in the signs of Allah will suffer the severest penalty, and Allah is exalted in might, lord of retribution.

Quran Su 5:
42 but if the thief repent after his crime, and amend his conduct, Allah turneth to him in forgiveness; for Allah is oft-forgiving, most merciful.
43 knowest thou not that to Allah alone belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth? he punisheth whom he pleaseth, and he forgiveth whom he pleaseth: and Allah hath power over all things.
44 O apostle! let not those grieve thee, who race each other into unbelief: whether it be among those who say "we believe" with their lips but whose hearts have no faith; or it be among the Jews,-- men who will listen to any lie,-- will listen even to others who have never so much as come to thee. they change the words from their right times and places: they say, "if ye are given this, take it, but if not, beware!" if any oneís trial is intended by Allah, thou hast no authority in the least for him against Allah. for such-- it is not Allahís will to purify their hearts. for them there is disgrace in this world, and in the hereafter a heavy punishment.
45 they are fond of listening to falsehood, of devouring anything forbidden. if they do come to thee, either judge between them, or decline to interfere. if thou decline, they cannot hurt thee in the least. if thou judge, judge in equity between them. for Allah loveth those who judge in equity.
46 but why do they come to thee for decision, when they have their own law before them?-- therein is the plain command of Allah; yet even after that, they would turn away. for they are not really people of faith.
47 it was we who revealed the law to Moses: therein was guidance and light. by its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed as in Islam to Allahís will, by the Rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of Allahís book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear me, and sell not my signs for a miserable price. if any do fail to judge by the light of what Allah hath revealed, they are no better than unbelievers.
48 we ordained therein for them: "life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal." but if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for himself. and if any fail to judge by the light of what Allah hath revealed, they are no better than wrongdoers.


From the above, we see that the Quran says that the law of Moses (the Jewish Torah of the Old Testament) is the word of God, in which book (OT) is the truth. The Quran also says that the Gospel of Jesus is a guide to mankind, a book (NT) which makes a distinction between wrong and right.

Thus, the Quran cancels out any claims from the Muslims, that the Bible (OT and NT) is not the word of God. If the Quran says that the Bible is the truth and a guidance to mankind, then how can a Muslim argue against their Quran? The Quran doesn't say that the words of the Bible are distorted, but that they are the truth.

This leads one to wonder why the Quran says that the OT and NT of the Bible are the written words of God. First, understand that the Quran is based upon a lie and is deceptive. Therefore, the Quran spews out lies and distorts the truth. Quran says that the Bible is the word of God whereto you should believe, but the message of Quran distorts the word of God (the Bible), as can be seen in the following passage from the Quran.

Quran Su 4:
157 that they said in boast, "we killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the apostle of Allah";-- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no certain knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:--
158 nay, Allah raised him up unto himself; and Allah is exalted in power, wise;--

Not only does The Quran deny the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus, but also the redemption and forgiveness of sins by His (Jesus) blood, death, and resurrection. The Bible clearly teaches that the Lord Jesus was crucified and by His blood, death, and resurrection came forgiveness of sins to those who repent and believe that Jesus is the Lord, the Messiah, the true Savior.

The message of the Quran is false, because it says that the Bible is the Word of God, but yet, it clearly distorts even this central and essential teaching from the Bible, which is salvation in the Lord Jesus. It is without doubt that behind the message of the Quran are evil and lying spirits, who try to prevent Muslims in every way so that they cannot find the truth and the salvation found in the Lord Jesus.

According to the Quran, Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, received messages from "Heaven" by the angel Gabriel, and if that which he received contradicts the Word of God, then truly, "... though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed..." (Gal 1:8)

From research, it is apparent that Muhammad's revelations and visions contradict the Word of God (the Bible), and thus, it is proven that evil spirits deceived Muhammad by these revelations and messages, as satan is the father of lies, the twister of truth.

Changes of the Quran

Quran Su 16: 101. when we substitute one revelation for another,-- and Allah knows best what he reveals in stages,-- they say, "thou art but a forger": but most of them understand not.

Muhammad's desires and lusts powerfully influenced his life. Therefore, this above verse became the verse that Muhammad would use to change verses of the Quran. This means that Muhammad could and did cancel some teachings and replaced them with new teachings which were more suitable for him.

Muslims often say that the message of the Bible has been changed, although the fact is that the Bible's message has remained the same as the original. The fact is, the teachings of the Quran have been changed and by reading Muhammadís editing of previously written verses, the Quran itself proves that its messages and revelation has been changed.

Fundamentalism Islam, the sect of Islam which is prolific in terror acts, works just like the Quran teaches. This form of Islam changes things and matters of the Quran in a direction where it is always favorable to them and harmful to others. Which further proves that the message of the Quran is not reliable and trustworthy and not the word of God, as it has been changed accordingly by the mind and desires of men and what has been deemed favorable towards Muhammad.
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Old 07-31-11, 12:34 PM
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yes, I learned from your article. One thing we should all know
Rev 22:18 & 19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
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